Comments on: My Beef With Primal Fitness http://physicalliving.com/my-beef-with-primal-fitness/ Change Your Body, Change Your Life Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:17:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John http://physicalliving.com/my-beef-with-primal-fitness/comment-page-1/#comment-63999 John Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:00:51 +0000 http://johnsifferman.com/blog/?p=2125#comment-63999 That was poor communication on my part, Joshua. I should have said, "Also, at a cellular level, the human body cannot differentiate between different forms of resistance. Your cells don't know if you're throwing a rock, a kettlebell, or swinging a clubbell - they only know resistance, not where that resistance comes from." (of course, we do!) That was poor communication on my part, Joshua. I should have said, “Also, at a cellular level, the human body cannot differentiate between different forms of resistance. Your cells don’t know if you’re throwing a rock, a kettlebell, or swinging a clubbell – they only know resistance, not where that resistance comes from.” (of course, we do!)

]]> By: Dr Joshua Lamaro http://physicalliving.com/my-beef-with-primal-fitness/comment-page-1/#comment-63991 Dr Joshua Lamaro Thu, 01 Dec 2011 03:03:33 +0000 http://johnsifferman.com/blog/?p=2125#comment-63991 "Also, the human body cannot differentiate between different forms of resistance. It doesn’t know if you’re throwing a rock, a kettebell, or swinging a clubbell – it only knows resistance, not where that resistance comes from. It’s up to us to create a safe and sustainable training environment that allows for proper adaptation, without conditioning ourselves into injury." This demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the nervous system and proprioception. The inputs to your brain about the environment are the eyes, ears, nose, mouthm hands, feet (skin in general) and stretch receptors/mechanoreceptors. if you cannot tell the difference between a kettlebell and a rock with all these highly developed inputs feeding your nervous system, and make changes accordingly, maybe you shouldnt be training at all! “Also, the human body cannot differentiate between different forms of resistance. It doesn’t know if you’re throwing a rock, a kettebell, or swinging a clubbell – it only knows resistance, not where that resistance comes from. It’s up to us to create a safe and sustainable training environment that allows for proper adaptation, without conditioning ourselves into injury.”

This demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the nervous system and proprioception.
The inputs to your brain about the environment are the eyes, ears, nose, mouthm hands, feet (skin in general) and stretch receptors/mechanoreceptors.
if you cannot tell the difference between a kettlebell and a rock with all these highly developed inputs feeding your nervous system, and make changes accordingly, maybe you shouldnt be training at all!

]]> By: John http://physicalliving.com/my-beef-with-primal-fitness/comment-page-1/#comment-62421 John Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:39:32 +0000 http://johnsifferman.com/blog/?p=2125#comment-62421 Right, I DO love many things about it, but I wouldn't say I've embraced it by any stretch. That is, I don't adhere to it or identify myself based on that basis. I've formed my own nutrition conclusions from a variety of sources over the course of my life, but I'm not in a position to provide nutritional advice. Both MovNat and Exuberant Animals are wonderful systems that I fully support and have spoken favorably about over the years. But to clarify, neither MovNat or EA are about primal fitness, which is a common misconception. They're both based on the evolution theory and draw some of their methods from theories about how hunter gatherers lived, but these are NOT fitness systems - not by a long shot. It's true that they can be used for fitness purposes, but that is not their primary purpose. They are each in a category of their own. Thus, this article does not represent them at all. I'm referring to the type of person who goes out in the woods to lift logs and climb trees and labels it primal fitness because it's cooler than what they were doing in the gym. I know it's a gross over-simplification, which is resultant of one of the flaws I mentioned above regarding interpretation. Right, I DO love many things about it, but I wouldn’t say I’ve embraced it by any stretch. That is, I don’t adhere to it or identify myself based on that basis. I’ve formed my own nutrition conclusions from a variety of sources over the course of my life, but I’m not in a position to provide nutritional advice.

Both MovNat and Exuberant Animals are wonderful systems that I fully support and have spoken favorably about over the years. But to clarify, neither MovNat or EA are about primal fitness, which is a common misconception. They’re both based on the evolution theory and draw some of their methods from theories about how hunter gatherers lived, but these are NOT fitness systems – not by a long shot. It’s true that they can be used for fitness purposes, but that is not their primary purpose. They are each in a category of their own.

Thus, this article does not represent them at all. I’m referring to the type of person who goes out in the woods to lift logs and climb trees and labels it primal fitness because it’s cooler than what they were doing in the gym. I know it’s a gross over-simplification, which is resultant of one of the flaws I mentioned above regarding interpretation.

]]> By: Jerry Cagle http://physicalliving.com/my-beef-with-primal-fitness/comment-page-1/#comment-62406 Jerry Cagle Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:21:20 +0000 http://johnsifferman.com/blog/?p=2125#comment-62406 Hi John, i took my comment about your embrace of primal/paleo nutrition from this- "I still love many things about the primal way of life – especially on the nutrition side of things." To one of your other points - I'm not clear about what you would define as a "system". Since you participated in the MovNat workshop I'm assuming it doesn't have a system in your definition. Would Exuberant Animal qualify? Thanks, Jerry Hi John, i took my comment about your embrace of primal/paleo nutrition from this- “I still love many things about the primal way of life – especially on the nutrition side of things.”

To one of your other points – I’m not clear about what you would define as a “system”. Since you participated in the MovNat workshop I’m assuming it doesn’t have a system in your definition. Would Exuberant Animal qualify?

Thanks,
Jerry

]]> By: John http://physicalliving.com/my-beef-with-primal-fitness/comment-page-1/#comment-62397 John Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:31:45 +0000 http://johnsifferman.com/blog/?p=2125#comment-62397 Hi Jerry, Good points, especially regarding providing people with a framework to live and express physicality. I'm ALL for anything that does just that, but I will be critical nonetheless. I think people benefit much more from a system rather than an ambiguous idea. Also, I don't embrace primal/paleo nutrition. I'm not sure what gave you that impression, but there are some things that I do really like about it in general. Hi Jerry,

Good points, especially regarding providing people with a framework to live and express physicality. I’m ALL for anything that does just that, but I will be critical nonetheless. I think people benefit much more from a system rather than an ambiguous idea.

Also, I don’t embrace primal/paleo nutrition. I’m not sure what gave you that impression, but there are some things that I do really like about it in general.

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