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		<title>By: Personal Training Advice For Professionals &#124; Real World Strength Training</title>
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		<dc:creator>Personal Training Advice For Professionals &#124; Real World Strength Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, how do you transfer that information when, 1. Your &#039;job&#039; as a trainer is to &#039;tell them what to do,&#039; and 2. Most people have little interest or care regarding the workings of their inner selves?  Any thoughts on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, how do you transfer that information when, 1. Your &#8216;job&#8217; as a trainer is to &#8216;tell them what to do,&#8217; and 2. Most people have little interest or care regarding the workings of their inner selves?  Any thoughts on that?</p>
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		<title>By: You Don&#8217;t See Birds Wearing Backpacks, Do You? &#124; Real World Strength Training</title>
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		<dc:creator>You Don&#8217;t See Birds Wearing Backpacks, Do You? &#124; Real World Strength Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tougas, of www.AdventureInProgress.com made a great comment in another blogpost the other day&#8230; We all have only 24 hours in a day, and can only devote so much thought and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the very well-thought comment, Andrea. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re enjoying my site. It&#039;s definitely evolving, that&#039;s for sure. You bring up a very important point - that most people are so deconditioned that they risk hurting themselves by diving right into a new fitness or athletic program. I 100% agree.

I was trying to convey the point that becoming fit is very simple, which is a message that I think needs to be heard - given that there are complicated and mixed messages being exclaimed all throughout the fitness industry.

Hopefully, more and more people will become aware of the inherent dangers of exercise that are caused from severe deconditioning, and will take their rehabilitation seriously. We have to walk before we run, as the saying goes. And if you&#039;re deconditioned, you&#039;re technically injured and should treat your body accordingly. Most people have a dulled intuition about their current conditioning level, until they begin to explore it thoroughly and regularly. I agree that Intu-Flow is one of the best ways to get started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the very well-thought comment, Andrea. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re enjoying my site. It&#8217;s definitely evolving, that&#8217;s for sure. You bring up a very important point &#8211; that most people are so deconditioned that they risk hurting themselves by diving right into a new fitness or athletic program. I 100% agree.</p>
<p>I was trying to convey the point that becoming fit is very simple, which is a message that I think needs to be heard &#8211; given that there are complicated and mixed messages being exclaimed all throughout the fitness industry.</p>
<p>Hopefully, more and more people will become aware of the inherent dangers of exercise that are caused from severe deconditioning, and will take their rehabilitation seriously. We have to walk before we run, as the saying goes. And if you&#8217;re deconditioned, you&#8217;re technically injured and should treat your body accordingly. Most people have a dulled intuition about their current conditioning level, until they begin to explore it thoroughly and regularly. I agree that Intu-Flow is one of the best ways to get started.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always enjoy your blog. One more time you are spot-on John.

 Doctors are even worse. I mean the average docs, those who work for the industry. They want to treat  symptoms.
 They don&#039;t care  care for  the source and have no clue about solutions.   And the few docs who are really good aren&#039;t paid by the  public  health care system because the system pays for treating symptoms  with  methods that don&#039;t make you healthier but  even more sick.  No insurance money for prevention or sufficient  and sustainable rehabilitation.
 No it is not about money (different from private insurance companies) because the treatment of symptoms is often more expensive than real help - at least in the long run.  It&#039;s the quick fix thinking - the public health system is not interested in your health but only in your ability to do your job.   Most jobs are not very demanding in respect to the health and fitness you need to do them. And if you feel like crap take prozac or painkillers.

That is why I had to do  my own research in the field of medicine, psychology, movement research,  physiotherapy,   training, nutrition etc. to prevent or rehabilitate problems.
 It took me a lot of time and I wonder what the people do who have not the education to understand this  stuff  and the time to do their own &quot;research project&quot;.

Among other things  I found Scott Sonnon&#039;s material on my journey  and it matched well with my own thinking about holistic health, psychoneuroimmunology, somatic education, body-mind-connection and longevity oriented training.

Yes the &quot;fitness&quot; industry is like the &quot;medical treatment&quot; industry and the (fast) &quot;food&quot; industry.  I find machine training, aerobics and the whole bunch of gimmicks in the fitness industry just ridiculous.  It makes you dumb, not fit.   It is just big business and betraying the clients. Sports clubs for serious amateur athletes aren&#039;t always better. Some martial arts instructors would make Thomas Kurz cringe....And even personal trainers are not always a good option.

Bottom line:  I know exactly what you mean.
But there is one thing where I don&#039;t quite agree with you.

You say: &quot;  Anyone can become physically fit with a very simple traditional formula – engage in vigorous physical activity regularly and eat good food most of the time. That’s the straightforward path to physical fitness.&quot;

Huh?

Remember the deconditioned state that most peole are in because of desk jobs  and too much mental and emotional stress? You mentioned it recently in one of your posts. Vigorous activity on your own  would lead to injury for 85 % of the population says Coach Sonnon. Well - I am more optimistic. I say 70 %. That&#039;s why the fitness industry came up with their silly machines -- to save the money for trainers without injuring the clients.

My dance students are average Joes,  no pros. Bad coordination, bad self awareness, SMA, fear reactivity etc .  The majority of them shouldn&#039;t train vigorously without learning how to do it.
But even the competitive athletes....I had a class of 17 year old rowers.  Some of them had bad coordination in dancing, in walking, in standing (slouching).  It seems that even  serious sports training can&#039;t compensate for sitting all day in school, before the PC and anywhere. And rowing is sitting too, no &quot;free movement&quot;  in all directions.
They need Intu Flow and some of them a coach or physiotherapist before going into some vigourous activity they are not familiar with.

&quot;knowing why and how to do something, so that you can do it better for the rest of your life&quot;
Again I agree - that&#039;s what teaching is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy your blog. One more time you are spot-on John.</p>
<p> Doctors are even worse. I mean the average docs, those who work for the industry. They want to treat  symptoms.<br />
 They don&#8217;t care  care for  the source and have no clue about solutions.   And the few docs who are really good aren&#8217;t paid by the  public  health care system because the system pays for treating symptoms  with  methods that don&#8217;t make you healthier but  even more sick.  No insurance money for prevention or sufficient  and sustainable rehabilitation.<br />
 No it is not about money (different from private insurance companies) because the treatment of symptoms is often more expensive than real help &#8211; at least in the long run.  It&#8217;s the quick fix thinking &#8211; the public health system is not interested in your health but only in your ability to do your job.   Most jobs are not very demanding in respect to the health and fitness you need to do them. And if you feel like crap take prozac or painkillers.</p>
<p>That is why I had to do  my own research in the field of medicine, psychology, movement research,  physiotherapy,   training, nutrition etc. to prevent or rehabilitate problems.<br />
 It took me a lot of time and I wonder what the people do who have not the education to understand this  stuff  and the time to do their own &#8220;research project&#8221;.</p>
<p>Among other things  I found Scott Sonnon&#8217;s material on my journey  and it matched well with my own thinking about holistic health, psychoneuroimmunology, somatic education, body-mind-connection and longevity oriented training.</p>
<p>Yes the &#8220;fitness&#8221; industry is like the &#8220;medical treatment&#8221; industry and the (fast) &#8220;food&#8221; industry.  I find machine training, aerobics and the whole bunch of gimmicks in the fitness industry just ridiculous.  It makes you dumb, not fit.   It is just big business and betraying the clients. Sports clubs for serious amateur athletes aren&#8217;t always better. Some martial arts instructors would make Thomas Kurz cringe&#8230;.And even personal trainers are not always a good option.</p>
<p>Bottom line:  I know exactly what you mean.<br />
But there is one thing where I don&#8217;t quite agree with you.</p>
<p>You say: &#8221;  Anyone can become physically fit with a very simple traditional formula – engage in vigorous physical activity regularly and eat good food most of the time. That’s the straightforward path to physical fitness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Remember the deconditioned state that most peole are in because of desk jobs  and too much mental and emotional stress? You mentioned it recently in one of your posts. Vigorous activity on your own  would lead to injury for 85 % of the population says Coach Sonnon. Well &#8211; I am more optimistic. I say 70 %. That&#8217;s why the fitness industry came up with their silly machines &#8212; to save the money for trainers without injuring the clients.</p>
<p>My dance students are average Joes,  no pros. Bad coordination, bad self awareness, SMA, fear reactivity etc .  The majority of them shouldn&#8217;t train vigorously without learning how to do it.<br />
But even the competitive athletes&#8230;.I had a class of 17 year old rowers.  Some of them had bad coordination in dancing, in walking, in standing (slouching).  It seems that even  serious sports training can&#8217;t compensate for sitting all day in school, before the PC and anywhere. And rowing is sitting too, no &#8220;free movement&#8221;  in all directions.<br />
They need Intu Flow and some of them a coach or physiotherapist before going into some vigourous activity they are not familiar with.</p>
<p>&#8220;knowing why and how to do something, so that you can do it better for the rest of your life&#8221;<br />
Again I agree &#8211; that&#8217;s what teaching is all about.</p>
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